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  2. Oldworldtraveller

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    Absolutely. Difficult at times to sit back and take the advice of others, however in instances like this its a good idea to take their advice. They are not going to give bad advice as they don't want to lose a customers future bookings.
  3. Today
  4. TrentAnn

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    Now Cunard have suspended their sailings until 15th May, it seems the advice given by WShutt not to cancel your booking has been proved right. According to Cunard's website, any cruises which have been affected by the cancellation are being offered 125% FCC or 100% cash refund by completing their on-line form. If this is the case you should receive your 100% refund. I understand it’s disappointing to miss a much anticipated cruise. I was due to sail on 6th April and Bolsover were most helpful with my cancellation These are unprecedented times and we are all in it together.
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  6. afcandrew

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    From what I have seen, many cruise lines started by offering FCC of 125% but subsequently, most have reduced it to 110% or even just 100%.
  7. afcandrew

    P&O ships futures.

    Although of course anything is possible under the extreme circumstances we find ourselves in, I don't see a re-merger of P&O and Princess as they are now so far apart in both product and market. Of course, whilst not formally merged, P&O share many services/resources with Cunard. They are both headquartered in Carnival House, Southampton and appear to share staff at many levels. A lot will depend on how big the dent in the cruise market is. Another forum I look in on has run a survey about whether people want to carry on cruising and of nearly 3000 respondents so far, two-thirds say they will return as soon as possible. Whether that is the case when push comes to shove remains to be seen but even a third downturn in numbers will lead to some fleet rationalisation I think.
  8. terrierian

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    Having just read this blog I am shocked at what SINBAD has written. We were booked to sail on 24 July with CUNARD. I have had lots of e-mails from them explaining all the options that we have. As we are both 70 and I have heart trouble CUNARD advised me not to sail. I rang BOLSOVER but the lines were very busy but, the next morning I got a call from them to see what they could do for me as my number came up as a missed call. This is why we book with BOLSOVER because they CARE. I explained what CUNARD had e-mailed to me and asked if our deposit could be used to book another cruise. This she did. The next day the girl rang me to explain what CUNARD wanted me to do because if I cancelled the July one they would give me 125% FCC not as you say 110
  9. Oldworldtraveller

    P&O ships futures.

    Correct towny44, but although part of the same holding company they do of course operate as totally separate entities. P&O are "Carnival 'UK' Limited" as registered at Companies House with a separate limited company number but Princess Cruises are part of "Carnival Corporation" as listed in the USA. Holland and America also have a separate listing hence their separate listing on the NYSE.
  10. Captain Kidd II

    P&O ships futures.

    If it comes to survival of the global company anything could happen.
  11. towny44

    P&O ships futures.

    They are both part of Carnival so Princess does not need to swallow up P&O, but I doubt that any restructuring of the Carnival group caused due to the Covid19 crisis would see Princess and P&O merged together.
  12. Oldworldtraveller

    P&O ships futures.

    I agree towny44. They were purchased by P&O in 1974 and then broke away to become what they are today. Why would they want to merge with a cruise line that has 1 new ship, 3 fairly new and 2 old. They operate two different types of cruises attracting people with different ideas of what cruising should be, have different price structures and if it were ever contemplated Princess are so big now they would swallow P&O. As always, just my opinion.
  13. towny44

    P&O ships futures.

    Since Princess is predominantly a US based cruise line and P&O is even more a totally UK based company, then I see no prospect of Carnival merging their operations, and even when Princess was a subsidiary of P&O there was no effort made to merge them.
  14. Captain Kidd II

    P&O ships futures.

    I am surprised the focus is on the removal of Oceana and Aurora. I am coming to the conclusion we could well see P&O and Princess merging into a much refined fleet of mid to large ships. There is much to be said in removing the older vessels from both cruise lines then bring about efficiencies of scale by merger.
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  16. Jenjen

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    I was given mine over 30years ago seems amazing that we were given them with our wages! When they were not worth so much, but like you adds OBC It was when they became Carnival share the value went up so much,
  17. afcandrew

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    Like most folk, I only bought Carnival Shares for the obc. When I stop sailing with P&O (and all the other Carnival Brands), I will make sure I sell them without loss, even if I have to wait a while.
  18. DavidH

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    When it comes to investment, it's not "timing" but "time in" that really counts. DavidH
  19. Oldworldtraveller

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    Carnival at close now £10.67 and RCI $35.55, decision made.
  20. towny44

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    I believe the wall st crash in 1929 followed a massive, unsustainable post WW1 boom, so Spanish Flu just after the war did not seem to have such a negative market effect. But that's not to say that Covid19 won't result in a massive depression.
  21. Jenjen

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    After Spanish flu we had a big, big stock market crash Anybody could play the long game, seeing a investment rise, even up a lot, than could go bang. I for one could not risk that. my. Biggest hope me and mine come out this alive, if my holiday is the back garden with something to eat and a bit of sunshine so be it. to all, stay safe, stay well. nice to share thoughts
  22. towny44

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    Sinbad, you are not the only one with future cruises booked via Bolsover, and quite likely to suffer some sort of financial loss as this situation evolves. But screaming about your personal situation without appearing to care for how others are affected will not endear you to anyone on the forum.
  23. hturtle

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    wow aren't you a dog with a bone Sinbad, cant you just look outside your own little bubble a minute and see what is going on, of course not it doesn't then fit your own agenda. By the way the story in the independent isn't entirely accurate so don't use that as your bible. The latest information to come from ABTA and the Government is that the package travel regulations are not changing but being extended for a short while, this will mean that tour and cruise operators , where they have cancelled a holiday, can offer a Refund Credit Note initially rather than a refund, this will only be active until 31 July 2020 when if not used the credit note can be exchanged for cash at that point not in two years. Shouldn't really believe fake news. And I agree with Wshutt above that it is very unfair to blame Bolsover Cruise Club, they don't make up the rules just pass them on. We need to pull together as a country through this and think of the bigger picture.
  24. sinbad10

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    Certainly do not think, and I know this might upset a lot on here but can only speak personally, that Bolsover are not coming out of the present situation very well. I have a cruise booked in May and being responsible like many others held back from contacting Bolsover because my cruise wasnt imminent. Me like many others are now in a worst position due to the change of policy by Cunard/P&O on 19th March have now seen a worsening of terms offered. Worried about the rumour that the government might be changing the law so that as advised by Bolsover in above post to hang on as my cruise will more than likely be cancelled soon and have a full cash refund this might not be the case and only a credit voucher will be given and only a cash refund after 2 years. With this in mind I phoned Bolsover and even though I appreciate the situation they are in not surprisingly she advised me to cancel my cruise now and receive a FCC of 110% rather than transfer booking. I have 5 cruises currently booked with Bolsover for 20/21 so struggling for varying reasons to book even more. Every question I asked all she said was you will have to contact Cunard direct which we all know all they will say is speak to your TA. Feel that Bolsover are not being helpful in the customers best interests and advising everybody to have a FCC as it protects there own future and Cunard's with no thought or help and was not interested in the fact that having 5 cruises already booked I should find the time, space and money to book a further cruise.
  25. WShutt

    Bolsover Cruise Club

    The information above was correct when I replied to your email and as things stand are still correct. If the government change the regulations or plan to change the regulations in the near future then we would have no knowledge of this in advance. As an agent all we can do is pass on the latest information given to us by our cruise operator partners. What I think you need to appreciate is that this is a situation that has never happened before in the world and as such plans and regulations need to adapt with the ever changing pandemic, whilst there is no imminent danger some of these companies may be fighting for their survival if the situation continues for a lengthy period of time. Whilst I understand you are unhappy, our customers have always been and will remain our number one priority, we have been battling this situation since January, when the first cruises across Asia were cancelled, including the complex repatriation of stranded clients, to then facing global cruise suspensions as many countries closed their borders, our team is very fatigued, but they are all here together, battling along and with a team spirit that remains strong with lots of staff from all departments giving up their own time to help man the phones. So to suggest that we are only protecting our self interest is quite frankly very insulting and completely untrue. This will be my last reply on the matter as I have thousands of other customers to help who do appreciate the help and advice we are giving.
  26. sinbad10

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    They were higher day before yesterday and then they fell again yesterday and have now risen again so very volatile and still a very big gamble and you could still lose a lot of money.
  27. afcandrew

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    The Covid-19 issue has simply underlined that playing the Stock Market is always going to be a gamble.
  28. afcandrew

    P&O ships futures.

    I do fear that you could be right Sinbad. I certainly think it will hasten Oceana's departure and potentially Aurora and maybe even Arcadia. I can only hope not though as that will see the end of my cruising days with P&O. The argument about new and larger ships being much more cost-effective is however compelling. As you say, Iona 2 will definitely have a significant delay and she may not even see the light of day.
  29. Oldworldtraveller

    Never thought Cunard and P&O

    They certainly have but I see that Carnival are up again at £9.05 this morning. Should I buy now, that is the questions? 🤔
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