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  2. HLM

    Just back off the Aurora

    My thoughts entirely. HLM.
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  4. HLM

    Just back off the Aurora

    Once every 12 months would be the bare minimum, in a highly populated 24hr environment such a cruise ship it's recommended that it should be at least 4 times a year. Who enforces it is another matter?? HLM.
  5. Captain Kidd II

    Just back off the Aurora

    There will be a maintenance schedule for cleaning air conditioning which must be adhered to. The usual cause of most illnesses is the passengers boarding and not declaring they have a problem.
  6. Davybe

    The Licence fee?

    Ironically I received my Notification from TV Licensing regarding the changes . At 75 or over and you are getting Pension credit then you are entitled to a free licence? Unfortunately those under 75 but still getting Pension credit will not get a free licence, do we suddenly become poorer at 75 ,I thought the idea of pension credit was to provide the poorest with a decent income, some idiot at the BBC seems to think otherwise....Davybe🤣
  7. Davybe

    Just back off the Aurora

    Surprising enough they only recommend cleaning the filters ever 12 months or twice a year, and to be honest I have only ever seen the air con being cleaned once over many cruises? The one I retired to was in a Corridor not a cabin....Davybe
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  9. From Tomorrow 25th June prices on MSC UK site will now include the DSC charge so no longer having to pay at the end of the cruise only applicable to bookings made on UK site
  10. HLM

    Just back off the Aurora

    I beg to differ with that engineer Davybe and I'd also be very concerned that if as you describe the amount of dust and dirt was "unbelievable". To enable the filters to work correctly they should be regularly cleaned and maintained if not then of course they'll spread germs such as legionnaires disease. HLM.
  11. Davybe

    The Licence fee?

    It as said that most Benefits the public are entitled to claim are not claimed by the all those entitled, must be some sort of pride thing . Personally I would love to see the BBC self funding and scrap the licence fee altogether....Davybe
  12. Davybe

    Just back off the Aurora

    We were with an engineer on Eclipse when our friend asked him about the Air con ,we had seen one unit being cleaned out ,(The amount of dust in the filter was unbelievable ) and he said ,the filters only filtered out dust and dirt.....Davybe
  13. HLM

    The Licence fee?

    This issue will hopefully highlight the fact that many pensioners are actually eligible to claim pension credits but never have, by doing so may actually make them better off. Could end up being a win win for some, free licence and extra cash HLM.
  14. HLM

    Just back off the Aurora

    I take little notice of articles such as that Davybe, for every negative one there's a positive one, most of which have no factual research behind them. I look at it like this, every NHS hospital I've ever been in has air conditioning, therefore if air con units were responsible for the spread of disease would they be there, I think not. What I don't dispute is that they can aggravate existing conditions such as asthma etc, but that's totally different to spreading disease. Like I said previously person to person and poor hygiene is the most likely cause of spreading germs. HLM.
  15. cruise addict

    The Licence fee?

    I have signed the partition and written to my MP. Yes we can afford to pay for our TV licence, less spending money on the next cruise!!!! But so many elderly people who do not get pension credit but still only get a small pension will have to decide what to go without to pay the fee. Next thing I suspect will be bus passes. we are any easy group to hit as no one really sticks up for us and we can hard,y go on strike.
  16. Davybe

    Just back off the Aurora

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/160205-negative-health-effects-of-central-air-conditioning/ Not according to this article??....Davybe
  17. HLM

    Just back off the Aurora

    I agree to some extent, however the filtration systems in air conditioning units makes very unlikely germs would pass through. Person to person contact and poor personal hygiene is the most likely culprit for the spread of germs etc. HLM.
  18. Captain Kidd II

    Just back off the Aurora

    The problem is not usually the air conditioning but people embarking with coughs, etc, who then pass on there complaint to many more by using the AC to pass round germs and spreading germs via handrails, lift buttons and many other ways. A good health hygiene routine helps reduce the risks.
  19. *Dancing Queen*

    Just back off the Aurora

    I don't know if there is any credibility in this but someone told me to wipe the air conditioning unit with 'Tea Tree Oil' - I do this every time we board and I don't get chest infections/colds etc. I've probably just been lucky but it seems to work for me
  20. 2torts

    Just back off the Aurora

    There's 2 more cruises on Oriana after we get back so if you're on the last one we unfortunately won't meet. I'll miss Oriana but we're hoping Aurora will become our new favourite.
  21. lolandjen

    Just back off the Aurora

    Thanks 2torts. We might bump into each other!
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  23. 2torts

    Just back off the Aurora

    Welcome to the forum lolandjen. Oriana is our favourite ship too & we're on her in July.
  24. lolandjen

    Just back off the Aurora

    Hello all. My first post. I agree with all the above posts relating to infectious diseases. Air conditioning is not mandatory for germs to spread, any captive audience in a confined space will suffice. I was an Engineering Officer with P&O-Orient Line between 1956 and 1963 and remember when a complete deck's accommodation was commandeered as an isolation area, packed with patients with Asian Flu when we docked at Tilbury. I forget the year but the ship was either the Orcades or Oronsay and neither ship was air conditioned at the time. Having said all this I just hope that the crew and passengers on Oriana's final cruise are all healthy as my wife and I are booked on it celebrating our diamond wedding. Looking forward to cruise for three reasons. It will be our fourth run on our favourite ship Oriana. Secondly it will be our second anniversary at sea, (our golden was on Artemis in St Petersburg) and thirdly I was on the first Oriana on its maiden voyage in December 1960 and now sailing on its final one. End of an era perhaps?
  25. towny44

    Just back off the Aurora

    Air-conditioning anywhere is always a contentious issue whether on land or sea. Our early cruising was mainly on Princess and we always found that their entertainment venues were far too cold and we needed a jacket or stoll to be comfortable, now we no longer fly so P&O out of Southampton is our line of choice and most of their ships' aircon temps seem to suit us just fine.
  26. towny44

    The Licence fee?

    My understanding was that the last major license fee increase was contingent upon the BBC taking responsibility for the over 75s free licenses, so any gerrymandering was solely by the BBC, and I imagine they always intended to stop this provision despite their review showing only 15% thought it should stop, the remaining 85% thought it should stay (48%) or be amended in some way (37%). Whichever political party proposes privatising the BBC and abolishing the license fee might just secure my vote at the next election.
  27. Davybe

    The Licence fee?

    IMO the government pulled a fast one by promising "Free TV Licences " for the over 75s they giving the responsibility to the BBC to cover the cost of it. Should we have ever got the free licence ,which was a bit of Gerrymandering by the politicians to get votes, what happens between the age of 74 and 75 that means you cannot afford the fee? Most of us who cruise should be able to afford it? should it still be free to the over 75s ....Davybe
  28. Davybe

    Just back off the Aurora

    We sailed on Arcadia twice and twice I came off with a chest infection ,others in the party were fine . The Aircon on Arcadia seemed to work but the difference from hot to cold was noticeable ,in the public areas,you were starting to sweat before it came on and it went very cold at times. The air con on most ships dries my sinuses out ,but I do feel it does spread infections around the ship quite quickly...Davybe
  29. Jenjen

    Just back off the Aurora

    Maybe from the last cruise Aurora did, because the crew were going off sick as well as many passengers, also 3 deaths, that we know off so could be more. think it’s just one of things, I don’t know the cause, we are just making educated guess.
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