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  1. 5 points
    sinbad10

    Following the Dress Code.

    Sorry HLM but you are such patronising person who thinks he knows it all and is never wrong.
  2. 5 points
    Jenjen

    Following the Dress Code.

    It’s not about age, it’s anout standards, my Grandsons wear the formal dinner jacket, cuff links, etc our granddaughter loves the long dress nights so maybe the new generation will demand the formal nights they have got used to. Its not age, but standards, the children would not go school in a different colour jumper than the uniform policy, unless a dress down day. I would not go to the supermarket in my pjs nor go to theartre in leggings and flip flops. Just my opinion, others can do what they like, just don’t say a I’m old, b wrong
  3. 4 points
    Davybe

    Onboard shopping - NOT!!

    sinbad10. I would not dream of telling you anything? I think you think, you have all the answers.....Davybe
  4. 4 points
    Oldworldtraveller

    Would you sail on Her.

    A huge yes. Royal Caribbean are known as the world leaders when it comes to cruise ship innovation. On the new big ships their shows are not by in house theatre companies but in many cases with the original Broadway/West End casts. This was the case of 'We Will Rock You' on Anthem of the Seas and 'Live Love Legs' on Ovation of the Seas. On these ships if you choose 'Classic Dining' 1st or 2nd sitting you rotate through 4 different restaurants with different themes and menus but still retaining the same table and waiter in each. If you don't like these you can try one of the 14 other venues, some of which are free of charge. As for the buffets, the choice is vast with islands displaying foods of different nationalities. There is no more queuing getting on or off these ships than there is on small ships simply because they have more gangways. In fairness, if you have never tried them you aren't really aware of what they are like or have to offer. Give them a try, you might actually like them.
  5. 3 points
    Captain Kidd II

    Following the Dress Code.

    I wonder if it is time to "leave the subject there" as points have been made but it seems to ge getting personal? we need to be helpful and friendly as there seems to be too much backbiting on social media sites these days.
  6. 3 points
    It’s like a wheel that goes round and round and never stops.
  7. 3 points
    Having seen the deserted tables both on P&O and Celebrity on the final night, the number of people who have the need to eat in the buffet or book the speciality restaurant ,rather than face the staff that have served them well for the cruise, are cowards in my mind, have the balls to tell them why your not paying. P&O are in my mind quite correct in asking why your not paying the tips, to many people are back stabbing the crew IMO.....Davybe
  8. 3 points
    Furby

    Following the Dress Code.

    before i sailed on them i would of agreed with your assumptions that cunard is for the older generation, however having gone on both p&o and cunard i have to agree with other people who have posted on this topic, the age range is very similar. you are of course entitled to your opinion, but, as you said, you have never sailed on cunard, and are argueing with poeple who have, and personaly i would value experience from someone who has travelled with the cruise line, rather than aassumptions from other opinions
  9. 3 points
    smtcan

    packing list (what i forgot last time)

    Not cruise related, but I drove to pick up our son from University to take him to High School Graduation where he was getting an award. I reminded him to pack his 'interview' suit, shirt, tie etc. When he got dressed at home he discovered he had packed one black shoe and one brown. He only had trainers, so he had to shuffle across the stage to get his award wearing his Dad's shoes which were two sizes too big.
  10. 3 points
    *Dancing Queen*

    Following the Dress Code.

    I had not intended replying to any more of your posts however it is quite obvious you have some sort of problem with me as you continually aim to disagree with anything I post which of course is your prerogative and I certainly don’t expect anyone to agree with me but the nitpicking is quite unnecessary, you now seem to think it is ok to appoint yourself as the ‘forum police’ and demand people ( ie: ‘me’ ) provide proof of what initially was a perfectly pleasant reply to your own post about the age demographics on Cunard v P&O .. at the risk of being chastised for repeating myself again this is what I actually said: Quote: HLM I'm pleased you used the words 'Cunard in general SEEM to attract the older more traditional type cruiser ' I can assure you nothing could be further from the truth and the age demographics are pretty much the same as P&O .. children to pensioners and the majority seem to enjoy the tradition, perhaps in years to come tradition will be phased out but as Mitch says there is still a market for it and it's 'our generation' who have the disposable income at the moment. Now you are perfectly entitled to form your own opinion about anything I post what you are not entitled to do is basically call me a liar, granted I used the word ‘qualified by experience’ but aren’t most forum posts from ‘experience’ which qualifies the poster to make them ?? I may have quoted you but it was also information for other members reading the forum who might be considering sailing with Cunard in the future and comments like yours just might put them off, I also said Cunard isn’t as formal as some like to make out .. again said from experience, do I need to prove that too !!! As far as I’m concerned I was not unpleasant to you in any way and I just offered as advice something which might assist other members, you seem to think it is ok for you to post what you read on other forums whilst never having stepped on a Cunard ship and yet I who have years of Cunard experience and see what I see with my own eyes in your opinion is questionable, perhaps you could explain to me why I would want to mislead anyone. I will now leave this thread but please be assured I will continue to offer the benefit of my experience to others perhaps you might like to do the same after all you’ve probably been on ships others haven’t and like most things ‘experience’ will tell us what the brochures don’t. If I could just finally say I think your posts are made to bait me and whatever your intentions are it won’t work, this forum is no place for past vendetta’s ( yes I do know who you are ) and it’s membership do not come on here to witness ‘spats’ so in future I will not respond to any of your baiting but rest assured I will be requesting Bolsover admin remove any offending content directed at me should you wish to continue with it.
  11. 3 points
    iknowlescourier

    Would you sail on Her.

    Yes, booked for May. I am sorry that me and my family are the sort of people you would aim to avoid, CT Retired Again. Oops, I mean my family and I.
  12. 3 points
    RobBar

    Is It A Bribe or a Tip?

    Interesting If you want to dump your monies and prove how wealthy or ignorant you are then go for it . As long as service to me is professional and a reasonable wait period, a non issue Many crew depending on ones nationality are offended by one assuming they would not give great service as that is what they pride themselves on. I cannot speak to P & O , only to HAL, Celebrity , Princess and Cunard, In those cases the bar staff are not paid via your daily auto gratuity for Hotel Staff , their payment is the 15 % or such added on to your bill AND if you give extra. In our case I always add 1-2 dollars extra to the 15 % on my bill. Do I get extra service , possible but more likely to us showing up at same spot each afternoon or evening and yes I might be remembered. Giving extra , sure, they will remember but they will not ignore other guests Course the real question is does heavy roller still tip extra on ones daily bar bill
  13. 2 points
    Hi Loub, This is just my personal opinion. Traditional cruising is on its way out along with most of us who have enjoyed it over the years. All cruise lines are having to attract new customers and statistics show that the new customers are coming from the 'Family with Children' sector who are currently holidaying at land based all inclusive resorts in the sun. Resorts have improved over the years and those operated by RIU, SOL, Iberostar and others are true 4 star resorts. These people have over the years seen holiday resorts offering more and more for the children and therefore to attract them away from those resorts, the ships have to offer something similar. We also have to remember that although over 2 million people from the UK cruised in 2017 this is a drop in the ocean when compared with the numbers from the USA, South America and Canada who love their theme parks. Hence the cruise lines ordering large ships with lots of features. This morning I returned from the inaugural cruise of Norwegian Bliss, 168,000 gt, 4,000 passengers, 27 dining options, 14 bars and lounges, the largest race track at sea and already many of you are recoiling at the thought. But there is another side, the largest observation lounge at sea featuring floor to ceiling windows 2 decks high giving wonderful 180 degree vistas, furnished with beautiful colour coded settees and armchairs. Restaurants offering some of the best food I have had at sea, cabins with showers in large glass cabinets that have multiple jets at varying heights and angles to massage you whilst you shower. For those that want the old fashioned shower you just turn the other jets off. Succulent steaks cooked as ordered, fresh Sushi in the buffet, a separate seafood restaurant. No dress code, just smart casual. This ship has something for everyone, young and mature alike, if you want something special then book The Haven with its own suites, pool, sunbathing area thus allowing you to switch from mega ship to intimacy. Give it a try, you may actually like it. As I said at the beginning, just my opinion.
  14. 2 points
    Cancellation charges will always be a sore point especially with the America Lines as we have different booking conditions to other regions. I don’t think anyone would book a holiday just to cancel it, so if they are in that position must be for a reason and that when the charges hit the most. For me this just re-enforces the need to have adequate travel insurance in place from the time of booking. Yes, I do think other lines will follow suit.
  15. 2 points
    RiverSong

    Onboard shopping - NOT!!

    Are the changes in the “Shopping Experience” on board to do with the move to an Adult Only Ship or as stated “transition our retail shops on a select number of ships” because if this is truly the case I’m sure we’ll see a few more posts like this, and I wonder what notification they will receive? On a lighter note my other half would be jumper for joy if he thought he could take me on a cruise without any shops.
  16. 2 points
    Well said. Love being on board but also like to go ashore for a couple of hours unless it is somewhere I have not it been before then we go on a tour. like you I feel safe to be back home on the ship.
  17. 2 points
    sammy sun

    Following the Dress Code.

    I've been away from the forum for quite some time and have just been catching up on the latest threads. To get back to the original question, rather than address the merits of individual cruise lines, I think it's better to take a look at the industry overall. In the past, deciding on a cruise line based on dress code was extremely limited. If you enjoyed the formality then it was ideal, if not then it was difficult to find suitable options. Nowadays however, let's just appreciate the fact that there are so many different cruise lines to choose from that no matter what your preferences, there is something for all. For those seeking formal evenings, the options are there; for those who could think of nothing worse, the options are also there. it's great to have such a diverse range of ships, cruise lines, and individual offerings. it's nice to be able to pick and choose based on what suits you rather than the one size fits all approach. I realise the last sentence was packed with puns so I apologise!
  18. 2 points
    towny44

    Not ANOTHER one - lets talk new ships

    Tally, we did a lot of our early cruising with Princess and it is very similar to P&O, but with a bit more polish in the American style, but its very likely that the entertainment staff will have a high Brit content. We have sailed on Sapphire and its very similar to Azura/Ventura but with one less passenger deck, and about 400/500 less passengers occupying the same public deck space.
  19. 2 points
    Oldworldtraveller

    Following the Dress Code.

    Please, no one leave the forum. Any forum is about differing views, discussion and often disagreement but none of it should be personal. We all have different experience with different cruise lines in various parts of the world and the idea is we share these experiences to the benefit of each other. As always, just my opinion.
  20. 2 points
    HLM

    Following the Dress Code.

    Sounds good to me. HLM.
  21. 2 points
    *Dancing Queen*

    Following the Dress Code.

    No reason it can’t HLM and just for the record I don’t see it as me being right and you being wrong or vice versa. Could I just say though not only should this be put to bed but any future ‘sniping’ too from either of us, I’m sure we are both adult enough to do that.
  22. 2 points
    Countrygirl

    Following the Dress Code.

    You reply to people in the way you have above and then wondered why people call you arrogant.
  23. 2 points
    sinbad10

    Following the Dress Code.

    HLM is an expert on anything Cunard because he has read a few forums.
  24. 2 points
    cruise chef

    What has happened to the Forum

    Terminator - you've not been getting your knitted clothes from granny again have you?
  25. 2 points
    It's almost impossible to calculate how much the crew receive without knowing the actual number of cabin/dining stewards and butlers but assuming one cabin steward and two dining stewards look after 20 passengers ( forget the butlers .. are there that many to make much difference ?? ) if every passenger paid the full £7 gratuity on a 14 night cruise then this equates to £98 pp x by 20 passengers = £1960.00, divide that by 3 assuming cabin/dining staff get the same % then it equates to £653.00 per 14 days or £326.00 per week, of course it is all hypothetical because 100% of passengers will not pay the gratuities and if we are to believe what is said if the stewards do not receive an excellent rating on the feedback forms then they do not receive the full amount I think they probably receive considerably less. I don't actually care who gets what from my auto gratuities as long as those who have served me get what they are entitled to, if I wasn't happy with the service I received I would remove them ( I have never felt the need to do this ) what I do object to is those serving me getting less because some tightwad has decided they don't need to pay anything or some 'suit' deciding a particular crew member who didn't receive a 100% on the feedback form will get a reduced amount .. as far as I'm concerned if I leave the auto grats in place that is my indication I am happy with the service I received. Whilst I favour the auto grats under the present system what I would really like to see is the gratuities included in the base price and then we have a level playing field. I agree with Tally gratuities are part of the cruising culture, whether someone agrees with it or not is irrelevant .. it's just the way it is or was !! the current system obviously isn't working so the sooner the 'suits' at P&O realise they need to reassess the situation the better.
  26. 2 points
    To save all the problems and people getting annoyed and upset just include the tips in the fare. End of problem.
  27. 2 points
    Tally

    Service Reward Programme removal letter

    Yes I've seen this on P&O's Facebook page but I thought you no longer cruise with P&O so why do you care? I've never compared cruising to staying in hotels myself. When we started cruising I was aware that gratuities were expected. I don't know why so many people today are affronted by the fact. We've never removed the auto-tips and have always given a little extra to the staff. I've always understood the auto-tips have to be removed at the beginning of the cruise (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). If that is the case why do people remove them before they know whether they will receive good or bad service? Some people say they prefer to tip by envelope but why? Surely it's easier to leave the auto-tips on. I don't see this as intimidation at all but as P&O wanting to find out why so many people remove the auto-tips. Personally I have my own thoughts on that. Hopefully P&O will realise sooner rather than later that the best option is to include the tips in the price of the cruise. Let's face it for most people that's only £196 for a 2 week cruise and if it's included in the price they won't even notice it.
  28. 2 points
    Oldworldtraveller

    Would you sail on Her.

    Some really great posts and I can see why people in the future may crave for traditional cruising from the past. However when we wish for things from a bygone area we are inclined to forget about the things that were not so good. Back in the good old days of bunk beds, shared bathrooms, bingo and ballroom dancing for entertainment, no stabilisers etc. I think we need to remember that everything evolves with society. Cruise lines try to look 10-15 years into the future as that is when the the new ships of today will be approximately half way through their 'popular life'. As Tally rightly points out, this is what cruising used to be about. However with the inception of cheap flights, developing hotels and travellers broadening their horizons people now holiday in those countries which were the ports of call to the cruise ships or indeed off limits to all but the most adventurous, places like Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and a host of others. 30 years ago the Caribbean was the playground of the rich and famous, now it is the holiday destination of millions, times change. My personal opinion, for what it is worth, is that in 20 years time cruising will have changed beyond all recognition and the mid-large ships of today will be the small ships of tomorrow. It won't bother me as I will be travelling the universe on that cruise ship in the sky.
  29. 2 points
    No need for a 'Hard Hat' PP. What you say makes sense. You are also correct about not all people in wheel chairs and and those using walking aids being senior citizens, my 14 rear old granddaughter uses a wheel chair at times. However I think you would agree that in the majority of cases it is the senior citizens who require these aids especially on board cruise ships, or at least that is my experience of Cunard and P&O. Happy Easter PP and to all forum members.
  30. 2 points
    sinbad10

    Following the Dress Code.

    Because you comment and think you are an expert on Cunard when even by your own admission you have never been on a Cunard ship. But you think that because you have read other peoples posts and listened to those that have cruised on Cunard gives you an expert opinion to talk to people how you do as if you know it all and you clearly dont. You cannot have an opinion and chat bout a subject that you have no knowledge through personal experience only second hand knowledge that you dont know whether is true or not.
  31. 2 points
    At the end of the day this is a forum. Unless posters have met on cruises we don’t know who each other are and subsequently we don’t know which cruise line individuals have cruised with. Anyone can say that they have cruised with this line or that. There is no proof. I, therefore , think that we shouldn’t end up criticising others views or beliefs on topics. In relation to dress codes until such time as an itinerary stipulating the codes for a specific cruise is released and what those codes are then the conversations are hypothetical. Age demographics also changes with each cruise no matter which ship you are on and you will always get a younger demographic during school holidays. Also being in a wheelchair or having to use an aid to walk doesn’t always relate to the elderly. i shall now put my hard hat on ready for the firing line that I am bound to get. happy Easter
  32. 2 points
    sinbad10

    Following the Dress Code.

    One should only give opinions on any subject through their OWN experiences and not to question others and think that they are experts just by reading other forums. Would never dream of commenting on any cruise line or ship if I hadnt sailed on either.
  33. 2 points
    DavidH

    Would you sail on Her.

    Hi Davybe, Not often I feel the need to wear sunglasses indoors but I think it would be essential in the family suite pictured. "Garish" is the word that springs to mind!! DavidH
  34. 2 points
    Jaczs

    What a shame

    What a shame that the weekends seem to be filled with mindless people filling the pages with spam.
  35. 2 points
    Davybe

    Following the Dress Code.

    We tried Cunard ,not as good as the faithful believe they are ,and only "Formal "at night ,we though the ship very well appointed ,and spacious .Lovely theatre but the guest artist were poor, food and service in Britannia restaurant good but nothing special.Heated pools were a bonus.But Drink and Tips quite high ,Passengers most OK but a few up themselves , Met one old lad who only cruised Cunard because they were the best and British, We paid in US$ and he had never cruise with anyone else....Davybe
  36. 2 points
    DavidH

    Would you sail on Her.

    Hi OWT, I appreciate the point you are making and will admit to being the type of person who is prone to forming preconceived ideas from minimal information. My wife will confirm that I once planned a 9 country caravan tour through Europe desperately trying to avoid Italy simply because I had a thing in my head that said "this is a dirty country which you will not want to visit". I was very wrong all those years ago and, having found it impossible to avoid an overnight stay there (on the shores of Lake Como), I fell in love with Italy and it's people and have since returned numerous times. However, I do not have either the financial resources or the years left on this Earth to even contemplate trying the "Leviathan of The Seas" type of cruise holiday, preferring to spend what I have remaining of both on the sort of holiday experience I know I will be much more likely to enjoy. Oh dear! I've just re-read this post and I fear it may come over as a little depressing. Sorry about that. DavidH
  37. 2 points
    Ahoy

    Would you sail on Her.

    Been on Harmony and Allure of the Seas which are both the same as Symphony and they are all great! Never queued for anything which was surprising to say how big the ships are. And the ship doesnt take 8000 passengers, that would mean that almost every cabin on the ship would have to take at least 3 or 4 people which they dont.
  38. 2 points
    CT retired again

    Would you sail on Her.

    Not the ship for me,but with a bit of luck it will attract the crowd I would aim to avoid 😎
  39. 2 points
    Oldworldtraveller

    What a shame

    On the majority of forums you have to be approved by admin or one of the moderators before you can post. This is why most forums are spam free. Come on Bolsover, it's not difficult or that time consuming.
  40. 2 points
    HALaP&O

    Is It A Bribe or a Tip?

    Therein surely lies the dichotomy of the entire, and never ending, tip/gratuity/bribe argument/debate? Be it also known, that on 14 different cruise lines now, where they ( the gratuities) ever applied? We have never cancelled any gratuities, either. Not a statement of boast or grandeur either, simply a statement of fact. Personally, in circa 2018, I still truly believe that all people/all cruisers should be allowed to make their own moral/chosen cruising choices, and then truly stick by them, without fear or favour. Rather than (as is most clearly apparent now, in some notably instances), to those who seek and find fault at every plausible opportunity, with those people of a different mind set and/or persuasion, who choose to think somewhat differently, and recognise good service (when apparent) before, throughout, or ultimately at the end of the trip. If you want or don't want to tip, then simply go ahead, or don't go ahead, and forever enjoy/rejoice in the choice you ultimately made too. However, PLEASE, do not by return, similarly criticise or seek to find fault with those of us, who also do what we think by return, is the rightfully rewarded option in our hearts, rather than sadly ending up being seen as 'bribed' in the minds of the self-absolving others. Whilst it is always completely my own decision, and nobody else's, I usually 'tip' very discretely on the last afternoon or evening to barmen who have looked after us and served us well, on the cruise. In my opinion, it will always be nobody's business, other than my own.
  41. 2 points
    This could be easily solved by anyone new having to be approved by a moderator or admin. It works on other forums so why not this one!!
  42. 2 points
    Davybe

    Gratuities increase.

    At the moment we all have a choice regarding Grat's. Pay them or not quite simple ,you even get a choice of how to pay them, and how much....Davybe
  43. 2 points
    Joybug

    Is It A Bribe or a Tip?

    Who cares, bribe or tip, just get on with enjoying your trip. Stop being such a misery your on board ship a long time surely you are not that desperate for a drink. Be happy
  44. 2 points
    The Drunken Sailor

    Is It A Bribe or a Tip?

    Does it really matter? You're on holiday to relax, not to get stressed.
  45. 1 point
    I like many others like the old traditions of cruising and can fully understand the need to please the family market, BUT the next generation Is not far behind us. So I hope there will always be a market for the smaller ships. You get to the time when your own children have grown up you don’t want to be surrounded by other people’s. My worst nightmare would be Disney on Sea.
  46. 1 point
    mitch

    Not ANOTHER one - lets talk new ships

    trouble is the new ones are all huge so not for me.
  47. 1 point
    Oldworldtraveller

    Would you sail on Her.

    So true Davybe. I hope to see for myself in June when I am on the Viking Star.
  48. 1 point
    Oldworldtraveller

    Following the Dress Code.

    I would estimate the average age of the cruise I have just returned from on Azura to be about 65 - 70. Yes there were some younger but also quite a few older. From the cruises I have done on Cunard I would estimate a similar age range but to be fair on Cunard I did not see as many people using wheel chairs, sticks and zimmers. As always just my opinion
  49. 1 point
    towny44

    Would you sail on Her.

    I can relax on any size ship, just because a ship has lots of different activities you are never prevented from doing nothing. In fact outside school holidays with fewer children on board, these big ships are probably more relaxing than a mid sized adult only ship full of geriatric old dears staggering round the promenade deck.
  50. 1 point
    *Dancing Queen*

    Is It A Bribe or a Tip?

    I've never had to wait 15 minutes to be served
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