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  1. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    Hi All, I have been reading the posts now for many months and I can see that a lot of people on here are also on Cruise.co.uk forum and others (you could say I am doing a study). The first thing I have realised is that not everyone on the forums are genuine. There are people from all walks of life and probably the cruise companies are represented (incognito). What worries me about the anti smoking brigades' issue is that by cruising they automatically become far, far worse than any smokers anywhere in the world. We are currently trying to understand exactly what is going on with the cruise lines - banning smoking on balconies and now even E cigarettes because of 'health issues' and in the case of E cigarettes, they 'look like someone is smoking'. What I am about to tell you now, you can easily verify and some of you will not like this (some of you may not even cruise again). Cruise companies have known for years that by burning crude diesel oil (which they do 24/7), your health is at risk, especially if you sit on balconies. It is now widely accepted that carcinogenic particles are emitted from the funnels in very, very large quantities. 16 cruise ships emit the same amount of pollution in a year as all the cars in the world put together. In one second, they emit as much pollution into the atmosphere as all the smokers in the world do in one week. It is becoming apparent that cruise ships are far more dangerous to health than you realise. They damage the environment, marine life and even the ports that the ships visit are beginning to suffer. Look at what the ships have done to Venice, the Everglades, the Great Barrier Reef and so on. Even my local port is now looking into the pollution caused by the cruise ships. The W.H.O. has now put diesel, especially raw diesel in exactly the same bracket as cigarette smoke (carcinogenic - cancer causing). Other studies show that the people most at risk are truck drivers, farmers, railway workers and it would seem, most at risk, ship passengers and workers. The mammoth engines do not stop, even in port they are continually running and polluting the atmosphere. One cruise line in particular is trying to clean up its act but probably only because of pressure put on them. In all honesty, cruise ship brochures should carry a warning - Cruising could seriously damage your health. So next time you worry about a smoker on a balcony, just remember the amount of environmental damage, damage to peoples health (especially around the ports), damage to marine life etc. is being caused for your enjoyment (just like a smoker when he has a cigarette because he enjoys it). Please now go to Google and search these words - Can cruise ship pollution cause cancer? Do cruise ships cause environmental damage? Is raw diesel oil carcinogenic? - Please just read what there is to read and then ask yourself this question before you book another cruise - Do ya feel lucky (well, do ya?) - your choice. If you are concerned about your health, stop worrying about someone having a cigarette on a balcony near you and start worrying about the billions of carcinogenic particles that are falling on you from the ships' funnels. Summing up, I have cruised many times on many lines but I really don't know if I can support the cruise lines any longer after seeing the pictures on the internet of dolphins and whales washed ashore in pieces after being chopped up by the ships' props. Birds covered in oil by ship spillages (like the Concordia). Of course we have to have shipping, cargo ships etc are a necessity, but cruise ships are just there for our pleasure and it would seem most peoples attitude is screw the environmental damage, screw other peoples health but don't smoke near my balcony because I don't like the smell............Have fun cruising and helping to destroy so much
  2. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    what ever you say you must know what your talking about....you must have read it and off course you must know more than the leading scientist they was quoting..its all a matter of choice ..people can take you serious or the can take the mail and a leading scientist serious....
  3. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    hate predictive text
  4. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    sorry........ment ..they thought
  5. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    hi..googel it just put in 16 cruise ships.. dailey mail for one..but there is lots up there... could all be a load of rubbish just like the passive smoking numbers...lots have admitted they told porkeys becase of the stigma and they had smoked in the passed ... some because the thought they would not get prompt treatment...and then the ones who had private ins but told porkyes to save $
  6. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    just a bit about us...we are a family and some friends one is very very well known and liked all over the world possibly more well known than h.r.h.... now in his 70s smoked all his life but not in public and loves to cruise but the anti smoking brigade has messed it up for him also so he is well p....d off ..he cant smoke on his balcony and he cant smoke public ...your loss n.c.l
  7. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    yes now you have it ....its just the cruise lines know it and have done for years they are the worst of the worst ...just think waiters etc up high near that funnel paid next to nothing by the lines but most work in it all day and no health cover ..no anything come to that ..next time you cruise wait till late in the day and run a white hanky over the table or hand rails outside .... does it matter if its cigs or that funnel that makes us a passive smoker...its all about smoking and that funnel is a smoker it blows smoke in you face all day every day and not just for a few mins 24/7....yes some line are starting to clean up there air pollution but even that is not enough ...its all gone crazy ..people are brain washed .why why why cant they see that by cruising they are far far worse than any smoker on a balcony or this e.cig thing...they are that person with the dog that just leaves the mess for others .....BALCONY SMOKERS AND E.CIG USERS YOU ARE THE LEAST OF OUR CRUISING WORRIES and should be to all who cruise.........ps guys sorry if there is any spelling mistakes predictive text on this thing but cant find how to turn it off..lol
  8. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    Back again, sorry, regulations are being put in place. We know what is going on in the States etc with some of the cruise lines agreeing to do more but this has only come about by the pressure that environmental friendly groups have put on the governments etc. All of this is very recent. Several cruise lines so far have done absolutely nothing and as you know sometimes saying and doing are two different things. Pressure must be kept up.
  9. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    Try looking at NABU (Campaign for a Cleaner Cruise Industry) or THIS STINKS CLEAN UP CRUISE SHIPS. I think that this site explains everything. As we stated earlier, some of the things that you have said are exactly what would like to see done but whether they can afford to do it is another thing.
  10. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    Hi seawitch, Read your message about an hour ago and four of us have been looking on the internet and all we can really find on the subject mainly talks about sewerage waste. Once a cruise ship is out the twelve mile limit, there are no regulations regarding the fuel that they use. You could try searching (AIR POLLUTION CAUSED BY CRUISE SHIPS) as of course cruise ships cause many forms of pollution. If you do that I am sure that you will find reports from all over the world, Hong Kong, Sydney, Florida, Seattle and Dover, the list goes on and on. Some of you may have seen on the news just tonight, the millions of people across the world demonstrating about pollution and the anti cruise ship polloution brigade was very well represented. Please let me point out, my group are not anti cruise ship, we just want them to clean up their act. We genuinely are concerned about the damage that they do to everyone and everything it would seem. We stumbled across this smoking debate by chance and because of the research that we have done over the last few years, we found the whole thing about smoking on balconies / E cigarette ban and that some people are moaning about the smell of cigarettes on their balconies to be miniscule when you look at the bigger picture. It is like why would you bother to moan about these things if you really cared about your health and the health of others. It is not just us saying these things, right across the board from the W.H.O. to the top professors in the world are warning us about the emissions from cruise ships. It is there on the internet everywhere that you look, including pictures of cruise ship funnels belching out the black smoke and it is all done so as we can have a good time and enjoy ourselves. Please don't think we are anti cruising or anti smokers. We are just people who believe what is good for the goose is what is good for the gander, but some people and the cruise lines choose to ignore the really important issue.
  11. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    lol so funny....but you don't meen it
  12. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    hi seawitch ... no regulations ...look on the net and you will be very very surprised....
  13. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    hi fudge well the ball is rolling now .. we have put our local port under pressure and looks like we are getting somewhere they have started to measure the fall out from the cruise ships .......... and I know other ports all over the world are starting to do the same ...if your interested look on the net loads up there
  14. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    yes well said tally if someone feels that strongly about there health DONT CRUISE..and if you feel that strongly about the e.cig and balcony ban DONT CRUISE.....but one thing tally it looks like you think we was on there fun or our own enjoyment ?....we was not ..did we enjoy the cruise? yes we did .look at it like this I have a dog I take it for a walk if it poos I bag it up ....I don't leave the mess behind for someone else....[but some people do]...its the same thing as cruising it leaves pollution and allsorts of mess for others ..but by putting the cruise lines under pressure to clean up there ships we will make it much safer for all and less damage to world....all this e.cig and balconies thing its just so crazy ..let them use there e.cigs ..let them smoke on balconies its nothing not even a drip in the ocean or 1 pebble on a beach in comparison to the cruise ships
  15. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    This is all you seem to see on here and other sites - 'I' and 'ME'. So I will start this off about me - I am not a me, I am a group of people, some are smokers, some are not. Yes, we cruise - the last cruise was on the NCL Spirit in a Penthouse Suite and just before that the Owners Suite on the NCL Jade. We wanted to book the Garden Suite but the King & Queen of ******* and their family had booked it (NCL spy that is on this site - you can easily check this now). We have cruised many times but we also support the group of people who are putting the cruise companies under pressure to clean up their act in more than one way. Smoking on balconies and E cigarettes is a miniscule problem, the fact that they have banned them is crazy when you look at the bigger picture. We could not bring ourselves to moan about the smell of smoke from a cigarette from another balcony or that E cigarettes 'look like you are smoking' - it just seems so crazy to condone cruising but moan about these miniscule issues. Just put perfume on, it will cover up the smell, or would that be too much effort!!! Just like the anti-smokers achieved their goal. so will we and cruise companies will have to install filters etc to cut down on the emissions. (of course, this will raise the price of cruising, that is if they can afford to install on all ships in the first place).
  16. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    Morning all, Just popped back to see what comments have been left. Re. dark ages - no of course not, that is not at all what we are about, we are just trying to make sense of the whole thing. Someone asked am I a smoker, forgot to answer - I suppose the best thing to say is it is not 'I', it is 'we', could call us a family. Some smoke, some don't, but I have got to be honest, the non-smokers are fully in support on the smokers when it comes to banning smoking on balconies (an open air space) and the banning of electronic cigarettes etc. 'because it could look like you are smoking'. So far we have visited lots of these sites and it would seem that it is definitely victimisation mainly by people who only care about themselves. Can someone please explain to me how it is OK to go on a cruise that does so much damage to the environment and other peoples' health but they themselves moan to the cruise lines because they can 'smell smoke' from other peoples balconies etc. I don't think that there is anyone out there who can justify this. The whole point behind all we have said, is if the anti-smokers are really that concerned, then why waste your time over something as miniscule as the smell of smoke coming over your balcony for a few minutes. If you don't like it, do what you would do at home - if you had friends coming round and you had just had fish and chips or a curry, or the cat just pooed in it's tray - you would put some sweet smelling perfume into the air by whatever means you use, just to cover the smell. So the answer is very simple, just put some of your aftershave or perfume on for those few minutes, but I think I know what these people will say next - 'I should not have to do that'. That is all we seem to see on here 'I', 'ME'. Basically, it does not matter what damage is done by cruising but God forbid if I can smell smoke from a cigarette on my balcony!!! If you are really concerned about health issues, then jump on something that will help everyone, not just YOU. Join the groups of people that are trying to get the cruise lines to dramatically clean up their act. As for the pubs closing down, what has been said is not correct in our area. Most that have closed were the lovely quaint village pubs with ivy growing on the walls, you know the sort I mean. It is not just the pub gone, it is the jobs gone, the only pub the villagers had to go to gone. But what does that matter, IT WOULD SEEM, NOTHING.
  17. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    what I don't like about all this is ....its not the smokers ..its not the anti smokers.. its the cruise lines they have known for years that what comes out the funnels of there ships is a big health problem..even the w.h.o the same people that keep telling us about the dangers off smoking have put it in the same cancer causing list as smoking...please read my other posts anyone that goes on cruise ships is doing damage to others health ......just look on the net.. google it.....can diesel particals from cruise ships cause cancer...and don't stop there look at some of the other posts...that guy on the balcony might not look so bad .. well not as bad as the cruise ships pollution that falls all over you
  18. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    oh no we are not experts... its that w.h.o and others at it again ..our thinking is just the same as you..
  19. i spy with my little eye

    Carcinogenic

    spot on tally that's the whole point ..that's great thanks
  20. i spy with my little eye

    E-Cigarettes

    e.cigs..they say the ban is because it looks like your smoking....will they also take a good look at people with red marks on there nose and arms coz it looks like they have been jacking up on heroin or snorting coke........no..... people would not do that on a cruise ship now would they...????...lets all chill out with a as much as you can drink package then go onto our balconies and breath in all that carcinogenic cancer causing particles coming from the ship funnels that the W.H.O are now warning us of......just google it...[.are cruise ships a cancer risk].....16 cruise ships pollution is the same as all the cars in the world put together ....1 second does the same damage to the environment as all the smokers in the world in a week...just google it...[how much pollution do cruise ships cause] ....people most at risk from carcinogenic dust caused by the burning low grade oil is? ...yes you got it ships passengers......its all on the net just look it up...ps don't look at the pics of the damage cruise ships to wildlife might put you off ever cruising again ...but hay lets not forget that really important thing we was talking about....forgot what it was now...well it cant have been that important must have been something very trivial when you think about it...and your right boycott the cruise lines...they are the big health risk to the whole world not the smoker on the balcony
  21. i spy with my little eye

    Smoking On Balconies

    coming soon coming soon read all about it........cruise ships can seriously damage your health ..looks like some people in very high places are fed up with this also... big expose coming soon in the uk ..... could be some real cheap cruise deals next year
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