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Put the smokers including the vapers in a 'fume room '. Built into the funnel with appropriate extraction and even air cleaning/scrubbing...getting technical now.

The scientific jury is still out on vapers......it's just the tobacco industry finding a new way to keep the addicted buying stuff.

It may be impractical, but I am one of the people that really finds the smell of the event (and the people afterwards ) absolutely revolting..... Nothing personal. It's their addiction..... Get treatment, statistically it will kill you! Wake up! Smell the coffee?

I would book a smoking free cruise before any other......Oh yes and a 'Strictly' free cruise definitely to be avoided.

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To add a little perspective to the topic, Fred Pearce (environmental consultant) reported in the New Scientist stating that 16 large ships produce as much Sulphur as ALL the world's cars.  And here we are worried about a chap having a bacca on deck.  As for vape sticks/e-cigs or whatever we call them, any pollutants emitted are minimal.

If you're now worried and thinking of staying below deck, you should also avoid the people down there who wear perfume - not a chance.  Synthetic fragrances are made from petroleum, as much as the label says 'essence of' x, y or z, unless the perfume was thousands of pounds for a teaspoon full, it isn't.  Likewise soap, shampoo etc. anything with a synthetic fragrance. As for living under a flight path or near a busy road, that's another story.

 

So next time you're on deck enjoying the 'fresh air', if you see a chap smoking, have a look up at the funnel and think, so what?  As for someone puffing on an e-cig, congratulate them for getting off the cigs.  And if the belle of the ball all scented up asks me to dance a smoochie would I?  Too right I would.

 

Happy Cruising

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A different slant Ged on the old fashioned arguement, I think some peoples arguement is more about the unpleasant smell but you have a valid point about pollutants, It's simple for anyone if you are offended by the smell then avoid the designated smoking areas on ship for those where the air is clear!

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CC - I tried avoiding the smokers area on Orianna recently only to find I coukd not go onto any if the tiered decks as the smell blew across from one side of the ship to the other! One particular group had "members" at tables throughout the day to ensure noone else could sit near them.

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CC - I tried avoiding the smokers area on Orianna recently only to find I coukd not go onto any if the tiered decks as the smell blew across from one side of the ship to the other! One particular group had "members" at tables throughout the day to ensure noone else could sit near them.

There is an obvious solution to that, C Kidd. Sit on the side WITH the smokers and the smoke will waft to the non smoking side. Simple really.

I actually can't see what all the fuss is about. If you don't like smoking areas, avoid them, and it's quite possible to do so, in our

experience.

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What I find a little odd is that people who do not smoke and berate others for doing so also buy duty free on the ships to take home for friends who do. If cruise lines want to stop smoking on ships then stop selling cigarettes. Oh, sorry, that of course would affect their profits. Strange old world.

My sentiments exactly OWT, it annoys the hell out of me when people I know berate others for smoking, only to come home from their holidays making money by selling the cheap duty frees they've purchased while away, talk about double standards!!

I also agree that if cruise lines want to ban smoking on board, they have to go the whole hog and stop selling them, but we all know that won't happen.

HLM (non smoker).

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To add a little perspective to the topic, Fred Pearce (environmental consultant) reported in the New Scientist stating that 16 large ships produce as much Sulphur as ALL the world's cars. And here we are worried about a chap having a bacca on deck. As for vape sticks/e-cigs or whatever we call them, any pollutants emitted are minimal.

If you're now worried and thinking of staying below deck, you should also avoid the people down there who wear perfume - not a chance. Synthetic fragrances are made from petroleum, as much as the label says 'essence of' x, y or z, unless the perfume was thousands of pounds for a teaspoon full, it isn't. Likewise soap, shampoo etc. anything with a synthetic fragrance. As for living under a flight path or near a busy road, that's another story.

So next time you're on deck enjoying the 'fresh air', if you see a chap smoking, have a look up at the funnel and think, so what? As for someone puffing on an e-cig, congratulate them for getting off the cigs. And if the belle of the ball all scented up asks me to dance a smoochie would I? Too right I would.

Happy Cruising

Excellent post Ged, I also wonder how many of those who berate smokers drive around in big petrol guzzling 4x4's and the like, without a care in the world about others.

HLM (non smoker).

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Thalassa - ok so we avoid all rear tiers of the ship because of smoke. We avoid the top sun decks because of the fumes from the ship. We aboid half of the Prominade deck as it is given over to smokers. Keep out of the outside eating areas, even though smoking is banned in UK restuarants. What have we left? Oh yes, inside the ship. All I ask is that everyone considers each other so we can all enjoy the holiday, including sea days which is where there seems to be a problem.

Perhaps the "victims" of this are the non smokers.

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If it's the smells that's the concern rather than carcinogens, allergens etc. then keep me out of it.  I don't mind telling Smokin' Joe that he's in the wrong place, but telling Sweaty Betty and Garlic Gordon that they stink is way beyond my pay grade.

 

By the way, not being a smoker, I had a look round the general rules online for e-cigs and smoking on board.  There are variations, some allow e-cigs on balconies, some have smoke rooms but the weirdest was the "cigar room" on Cunard - cigar and pipe smokers are welcome, but cigs and e-cigs are not.  Any Cunarders care to offer the thoughts behind that one?  Is there such a thing as an e-cigar?  Just a thought.

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Thalassa - ok so we avoid all rear tiers of the ship because of smoke. We avoid the top sun decks because of the fumes from the ship. We aboid half of the Prominade deck as it is given over to smokers. Keep out of the outside eating areas, even though smoking is banned in UK restuarants. What have we left? Oh yes, inside the ship. All I ask is that everyone considers each other so we can all enjoy the holiday, including sea days which is where there seems to be a problem.

Perhaps the "victims" of this are the non smokers.

I agree Captain that everyone should consider each other, but that does mean respecting other people's right to smoke in designated outside areas.

Smokers are given designated areas, therefore they shouldn't be berated for smoking there.

Non smokers probably have 90% of the ship to frequent, so I'd say smokers are the real victims.

HLM.

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Smokers are indeed the victims of their addiction but they have 100% of the ship's public areas to make use of even if they can't have their adult dummies hanging out of their mouths in them. However wherever they are they still reek & in somewhere like the theatre you can't always move away from them.

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Smokers are indeed the victims of their addiction but they have 100% of the ship's public areas to make use of even if they can't have their adult dummies hanging out of their mouths in them. However wherever they are they still reek & in somewhere like the theatre you can't always move away from them.

Hello 2torts, I totally agree that smokers do indeed have 100% of the public areas to frequent, but equally so do non smokers whether they choose to use them or not is up to them, you can't blame smokers for that.

The point about the theatre is really doesn't stand up, I personally hate the smell of stale garlic, stale sweat, stale smoke, coffee and some perfumes, all of which I've experienced on a ship, what do we do, ban all of them?

As a non smoker I accept there will be smoking onboard, I simply avoid those designated areas, and until there is a total ban people have to accept it or stop cruising.

HLM.

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I have never said that I wanted to ban smoking but the smell does make me feel I'll - possibly because it reminds me of all the family members including my Dad who have died from lung cancer.

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I have never said that I wanted to ban smoking but the smell does make me feel I'll - possibly because it reminds me of all the family members including my Dad who have died from lung cancer.

You have my sincere sympathy regarding your dad, I've lost three members of my family to lung cancer.

I don't like the smell either, but I suppose until they ban it we have to live with it.

Other forum members may remember, but I believe a few years ago a major cruise line did ban smoking from their fleet, possibly Princess? But within a few months they reinstated it, I don't think they ever gave a full explanation as to why it was reintroduced, but speculation was that there was a significant fall in sales.

HLM.

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Hi  It was Carnival who operated one ship as non-smoking but they soon reversed the decision.  No reason was given for the reversal in policy but a few experienced cruise bloggers suggested that the reason was a dramatic fall in the revenue from the casino.

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Hi  It was Carnival who operated one ship as non-smoking but they soon reversed the decision.  No reason was given for the reversal in policy but a few experienced cruise bloggers suggested that the reason was a dramatic fall in the revenue from the casino.

Thank you Land Ahoy, it was Carnival.

I'm bemused that some lines still allow smoking in the casino, outside fine but not indoors, but like you suggest it's probably down to revenue, the same reason they still sell cigarettes.

HLM.

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It bewilders me as well HLM, I can never understand it. I completely understand smoking being permitted outdoors in designated areas but not inside. If it's outdoors only then surely it mirrors the requirements we have over here and most British passengers at least would understand and respect this but to have smoking indoors seems strange to me. As much as not permitting smoking on board at all would alienate smoking cruise enthusiasts, surely by allowing smoking in areas such as casinos does exactly the same thing to non-smokers.

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It bewilders me as well HLM, I can never understand it. I completely understand smoking being permitted outdoors in designated areas but not inside. If it's outdoors only then surely it mirrors the requirements we have over here and most British passengers at least would understand and respect this but to have smoking indoors seems strange to me. As much as not permitting smoking on board at all would alienate smoking cruise enthusiasts, surely by allowing smoking in areas such as casinos does exactly the same thing to non-smokers.

Totally agree with all what you say.

I personally enjoy a good gamble when on a cruise, but I wouldn't even consider cruising with a cruise line that allows smoking inside their ship, especially the casino!!.

HLM.

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Totally agree with all what you say.

I personally enjoy a good gamble when on a cruise, but I wouldn't even consider cruising with a cruise line that allows smoking inside their ship, especially the casino!!.

HLM.

 

I'm the same. I like to enjoy the casinos on board too but not to the point where the place is invaded by smoke. 

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I am an ex-smoker, so I know only to well the arguments for and against the dreaded weed, but having read some of the posts on this subject,I think being stuck on a ship for any amount of time with such a bunch of intolerant discontented people is really not my idea of a good time. Why on earth when you have so little love or understanding for your fellow passengers would you choose to be stuck in close proximity to several hundred of them. I would suggest trying a couple of weeks on a wilderness holiday as an alternative to cruising.

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P&O. Princess. N.C.L. Celeberty. And all the other big name cruise lines you need to stop ALL forms of smoking on board end of story no argument. If these people want to smoke then go elsewhere,

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