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Just been reading a review from a couple who booked a cruise on a family ship in July (school holidays ) and complained about there being children on board??

Is it me, what was their problem Book an adult only ship if you do not like children.The Clue is in Family Friendly ship ,so expect families to be onboard.

Being retired we can book out of peak school holiday's mainly because it's cheaper,we did tried Arcadia sailing with the "Grumpies" where the childishness comes from so called adults,much prefer a family ship ....Davybe

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I agree with you Davybe. There are over 300 cruise ships operated by 62 different cruise lines, enough I would suggest to satisfy the needs of all travellers. I think the major problem is that many people actually believe the adverts and brochures rather than speaking with a professional agent like Bolsover who will discuss with them what they expect and then assess their needs before recommending. I recently spent 2 days working at the London Cruise Show and lost count of the number of times I was asked "Who do you recommend'. Only after speaking at length with people can you suggest something you believe will meet their expectations.

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I think it's all too easy to take the headline about there being complaints about kids on family friendly ships and drawing conclusions.

Having not read the review I cannot make comment on that, but I can make anecdotal comments.

On Ventura a few years ago in August the ship was up to its maximum in all categories of children. They were well catered for entertainment wise and generally well behaved, so no complaints there.

Last August on Crown Princess there were some unsupervised children running up and down corridors in the early hours while there parents were sloshed in one of the bars: they were called to account by the captain (a yellow card, not a red one). In that case there is definitely cause for complaint especially if the kids were running around outside your cabin.

Just saying that there may or may not be a legitimate reason for the moan.

If, however, it was just a moan about kids without any reason then yes those people are idiots.

RayO

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Have to agree with RayO if their complaint was just in general about children on board, then it does seem a little silly as it is expected if the cruise was booked during school holidays and on a family cruise ship. However, there could be more to it and a legitimate reason for their complaint. 

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, I've been on thomson before and always enjoyed it however this was certainly not the case on this one. It was full of children, now I love children, I work with children but I don't want a whole gang on my holiday, so much so that I couldng get a bed to sunbath on, apparently it was a dance school who did shows through the week. That wasn't the worse thing, our cabin toilet was broken and 

Morning RayO  the paste is from the review I was thinking of. ? This was not the only thing that went wrong??

I have experienced badly behaved children (Teenagers) but then again that was in school holiday's ,and my holiday times were restricted. 

We were on an RCI ship sailing from the USA this bunch of Teenagers decided they could rule the ship .on the second day they started a food fight in the buffet ,the biggest man I have ever seen turned up and instructed them to clean it up ,right now or you and your parents will be getting off tomorrow, it did the trick.....Davybe 

The thread was started as a generalization not a specific complaint ,ifyou read reviews this comes up from time to time.

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Picking up on Davybe's comment on the 'grumpies', my brother took his 2 children (14 and 12) on the Ventura 28 night Caribbean cruise this January. They were the only children on board, which he knew would be the case as its in school time (his children are home schooled) however he said his kids were better mannered than a lot of the passengers onboard. He says he much prefers to sail in the school holidays as the children are better behaved than some of the older passengers. There was a lot of pushing/shoving and rudeness to the crew and my brother felt the need to step in a few times. I think teenagers/young people get a lot of stick in regards to respect but I think it is the elders which lack respect nowadays.

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Hi  I agree with the views of the members on this forum, if you  book a cruise on a family friendly ship in the school holidays it shouldn't be a surprise if youngsters are on board.  On a similar theme I have no time for those passengers who complain about the cost of tips or beverages on many USA cruise lines you should have found out about them at the time of booking.

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2 hours ago, Oldworldtraveller said:

I agree with you Davybe. There are over 300 cruise ships operated by 62 different cruise lines, enough I would suggest to satisfy the needs of all travellers. I think the major problem is that many people actually believe the adverts and brochures rather than speaking with a professional agent like Bolsover who will discuss with them what they expect and then assess their needs before recommending. I recently spent 2 days working at the London Cruise Show and lost count of the number of times I was asked "Who do you recommend'. Only after speaking at length with people can you suggest something you believe will meet their expectations.

I too am asked this question a lot by friends, family members and colleagues. It's an increasingly difficult question to answer. I say increasing because the number of cruise lines and cruise ships popping up all over the world continues to increase year on year. As OWT quite rightly says, there are over 300 ships currently cruising the world's waterways and to randomly pick one out of thin air that MIGHT suit the person you're talking to would not be fair to them. Only when you know exactly what a person is looking for can you begin to make recommendations and even then it's difficult to suggest just one cruise line let alone a single ship. This is where companies like Bolsover do come into their own. Many people say they prefer doing their own research but if you've never cruised before, it's very very different to booking a land-based holiday. There are so many other factors to consider that you often need a specialist to guide you through it. I know from experience that is exactly what I needed and thank Bolsover for putting in the tremendous amount of time they have over the years guiding me through new suggestions, destinations, accommodations and dining advice. I strongly believe that had the people who posted this review spoken to someone experienced in the industry such as Bolsover, they would have enjoyed a much better cruise experience.

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5 minutes ago, MG16 said:

Picking up on Davybe's comment on the 'grumpies', my brother took his 2 children (14 and 12) on the Ventura 28 night Caribbean cruise this January. They were the only children on board, which he knew would be the case as its in school time (his children are home schooled) however he said his kids were better mannered than a lot of the passengers onboard. He says he much prefers to sail in the school holidays as the children are better behaved than some of the older passengers. There was a lot of pushing/shoving and rudeness to the crew and my brother felt the need to step in a few times. I think teenagers/young people get a lot of stick in regards to respect but I think it is the elders which lack respect nowadays.

We found the same thing on Azura, The waiter even apologizing for seating us near children for breakfast ,they were lovely children who we ended up talking to ,along with the parents ...Davybe

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Sometimes there is nothing you can do to appease people. Many people instantly make their minds up from the moment they spot a child that the child will be a nuisance of cause them some form of irritation. I was sat in a restaurant at the weekend when my 2 year old was happily colouring a book she had with her at our table. A couple came to sit down and immediately asked to be moved away from my daughter. She sat at the table the whole time, ate her lunch and never once gave any other person in the place a reason to find her frustrating. Many people have a preconception that all children are a nightmare in public places which is simply not the case. I've met many people who my 2 year old daughter would run rings around when it comes to manners.

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Couldnt agree more with that sentiment Sammy. I too have been in restaurants recently where adults have behaved in a manner that had it been children the rest of the diners would have complained. the couple you referred to were very narrow minded and a well behave child is the same as a well behaved adult, no trouble to other diners or passengers

Such a shame in modern society that everyone is tagged the same

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Children on ships is often a contentious subject. Maybe the reason for this is that the vast majority of people who holiday on cruise ships are over the age of 50 years and in the majority of cases are not used to having children about them continually during their waking hours.

Here is an observation from my own personal experience and it will be interesting to see who agrees with me and who shoots me down in flames.

Having now travelled on 18 separate cruise lines there are only 3 where I can say that children were rowdy and a lack of parental control was very evident.  They were P&O, MSC and R.C.I. However this was always when sailing ex UK with P&O, R.C.I and Barcelona and Genoa with MSC, often during school holidays. Never had a problem when sailing RCI or MSC even during holidays when departing from various ports in the Caribbean or the States and in fairness never sailed P&O from these ports. Is there a message there, do some countries parents control their children better than others, I don't know but will leave it to you to say from your experiences.

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Morning OWT.

Must agree quite an unusual thing to come across on cruise ships.

Worst was an RCI ship which had lots of American Teenagers  ,who were trying to run riot on the ship ? We saw them start a food fight in the Buffet ,and security was called .The biggest man I have ever seen arrived with his team.

He Banged the table and bawled "Stop now and clean it up" which was met with a silence ,"Clean it up or you and your parents will be going home in the Morning UNDERSTAND" very reluctantly they did clean up the mess ,His parting shot was "that's the last time  If  we get any more trouble your off" 

There were other incidents but nothing much to spoil our holiday.

Worst thing I think on the US cruise lines is when they take a block corporate booking and they then take over the ship restricting our use of the facilities ....Davybe   

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Hi OWT, I must admit that I partly agree and disagree with your point. I've noticed some bad behavior before on a few cruises out of Southampton with P&O but this has never been the case on Celebrity. I have however seen the worst behavior from children on board my Holland America cruise sailing from Venice.  At the time, I didn't have children but with my wife working in a school we're restricted to holiday times. We'd looked at two cruises and don't mind being around kids at all but during this cruise it was particularly bad. There were many children that were clearly underage drinking and somehow getting away with it and their behavior around the pool areas during the day was the worst I've seen at sea. These were multi-national children of mixed ages so I don't think it's the country in which they're from, rather the specific way the individual parents choose to deal with it. 

Some parents would put a stop to that straight away, whilst others would not be overly bothered or would not have even noticed. I find that some parents use the kids clubs and other entertainment for teens on board in order for them to be able to almost wash their hands of their kids for the duration of the holiday. That to me is baffling but that's just my opinion. Personally, I was raised in a different way and I'll raise my daughter the same. 

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Greetings, 

Having sailed as a kid on the pre Carnival P&O the staff would have come down on us like a ton of bricks for miss behaving.

Having done two P&O and one Princess with our child during school holidays in the last 3 years, it was an eye opener.

On P&O the teenagers seemed self policing, I think they had been warned on first day what was expected of them. They held doors, if there were too many in one place they moved to an area where they wouldn't upset people, even had one put the blanket back over my son who as asleep on my shoulder  on evening unprompted.

On Princess they were less well behaved, it might well have been that the kids clubs were geared to US kids not UK and that it was first week of school hols. They were just not ready and the kids got bored with the offerings and thus entertained themselves. The pools were like rugby scrums most of the times they finally put security on them, who didn't do much, after 3-4 broken bones. The deck entertainments team had more kids wanting to work with them than the youth zone it seemed.

I think it comes down to, the market the cruise line is aiming for as a previous poster said, we will not go with Princess again after the last one.

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Funny how some people make a point of having a moan about anything, the seem to think taking a poke at kids, is good sport, they would not dare say how many wheel chairs, or walking sticks, caused them problems.

in over 30  cruises we have never had any problems with children we have taken all of our Grandchildren, mind you they did  not want to go to the kids club they like being with us, and playing card So, my husband owns our 14 year old Grandson thousands of pounds playing poker! 

I cant understand why people can not just enjoy themselves, live and let live I think, so agree with the forum who have posted on this topic

Happy crusing

 

 

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if people don,t like children before you book a specific cruise ask the agent to tell you how many kids are aboard they will tell you even the demographics of the numbers .

we need to remember they are the future cruisers and we were kids once , life is for living not complaining

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