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mitch

e-cig policy going to cost a returning customer

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many years ago pre 2003, my late wife and i were regular cruisers and back then i was a smoker, obviously smoking cabins were available back then.

anyway times change and i now only use a brand of e-cig that only emits water vapour effectively. having injured my knees i was considering cruises from southampton for a holiday as a flight to anywhere remoteley warm would be problematic for the knees and i was looking at a cruise in sept/oct and a second in march next year. so i decided to check the various forums to find out about the rules re e-cigs etc and was suprised to find that they are not allowed in open deck areas. i was quite prepared for the ship  to follow  uk law regarding internal public areas but not open decks as well.

but anyway the worst was the vitriol from people on the forum. even complaining that smoking of any sort shouldnt even be allowed on the sections of the prom deck designated as smoking. so if all i am going to get is hassle for two weeks i aint paying out a lot of money esp with single supplements. the lines really need to do their homework regarding e-cigs. and before the haters start i am not advocating use inside in public areas but i fail to see the problem on open decks as its not smoke its water vapour.

 

 

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Welcome to the forum Mitch:)

As far as I am aware cruise lines treat E cig's /Vapours or such like just the same as regular Cigarettes ,you can use them in the designated smoking areas....Davybe

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On our recent cruise on P & O Ventura I saw people using the e cigarettes but only in the smoking areas.

I would suggest you phone the cruise lines that you are interested  in to check their current policy 

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thank you for your help. i have sent an email to a couple. mainly to find out if theres seating in any of the smoking areas as i have difficulty standing for long. i was hoping there would be an area i could sit and relax but it seems not looking on the websites it mostly seems to be a bit of the promenade deck. so it may be a holiday killer.

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Hi Mitch, poor you so many people are so intolerant perhaps you should ask about passing wind!

all the cruise line have smoking policy, and you can get the information on the website, Cunard let you smoke on the prom deck, as does most of P&O and some have other areas on open decks another website gave the low down on all ships smoking policy for each cruise line I saw it today in my emails.

enjoy your cruises

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thanks able seaman, ive googled all i can take lol. trouble is a lot arent dated so its difficult to work out what the latest policy is and the actual areas arent shown in any detail. i am suprised some lines still allow smoking inside usually the casino. must be a revenue thing. ive emailed a couple more to find out if theres any seating in outside smoking areas so i will just have to wait. ive always been a "considerate smoker" as the late wife was a non-smoker so ive always avoided causing inconveniance to others and have no problem with no smoking indoors. its just when they extend it to the outside i disagree. 

i may have to wait until i get the knees sorted.

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Hi Mitch. It looks like the cruise lines have changed their policies on ecigs. At one time it said you could use them in cabins but not anymore. I can understand it if it's the sort you see that give off plumes of vapour but not the cigarette type ones that I have seen people use. Anyway most of the smoking areas I have seen have seats but it will depend on which line you choose. Good luck with finding out. PP

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thanks boatswain, i have emailed the ones that fit my schedules and the need not to fly which rather restricts the choice. so hopefully i will hear early next week as one of the ones i quite like departs on the 17th. i wonder how late they take bookings lol. i am determined not to have to have one those scooter things at least not yet, although the way things are going i think that may be inevitable. the problem is as well the cruise lines seem not to be able to make a decision,it looks like all of them have changed policies several times over the last 12 months.

personnally i think its quite simple no smoking or ecigs in any internal area inc balconies, but provide a decent area outside with facilities for smokers and e-cigs allowed in open deck areas as most studies indicate the 2nd hand vapour has no smell or irritants. just coralling them to a small corridor of the prom deck is poor.

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I have been on both Aurora and Oriana this year Mitch and whilst I am not a smoker of any kind, from memory I think there are tables and chairs on the promenade deck outside Champions (Aurora) and the Lord's Tavern (Oriana).  These are designated smoking areas.  There is also direct access from the Lord's Tavern to this area on Oriana.

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brilliant thankyou afc andrew at least i can confirm the aurora as my march pick. pleased about that as its southampton to the carribean and back and was my first choice. and i think theres a 3rd oct cruise on aurora that suits for the last minute one.

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Just to be ultra-clear Mitch, that is only from memory.  Please do double-check with P&O as I wouldn't want to inadvertently give you duff info!  I do definitely recall people sitting out on the promenade at tables & chairs having a cigarette.  Aurora and Oriana are so similar in layout that they can easily be confused in my tiny little brain :) 

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This is from P&O's web site.

 

 

Electronic cigarettes, including those which do not emit smoke, can be used in designated smoking areas only.

Although we recognise that electronic cigarettes are not covered by the UK legislation we have taken the decision to prohibit their use in all public areas and cabins in the same way as real cigarettes for the benefit of all of our guests.

 

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thanks davybe, i dont have a problem with not using the e-cigs indoors. its my inability to stand for long at the moment if the only smoking area is effectively part of a walkway around the deck with no where to sit i am in trouble so will need to rethink my plans. its not helped by them changing the rules a couple of times this year. other websites still show cunard allowing e-cigs in cabins, but apparently thats been stopped now. ive emailed the cruise lines so hopefully they can confirm wether there are seating areas on deck where you can smoke. the websites merely say the smoking area is deck x fwd etc its not clear if its just a section of the promenade deck etc where there usually are no seating areas. hopefully afcandrew is correct in his recall which will solve the problem. just means the waiters around there will do well lol.

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every smoking area i have walked past on P&O, Fred Olsen and Royal Caribbean have had seats in the smoking areas. prom deck is not just a walk around there are always chairs on prom deck on P&O ships, I have just been on the Oceana last week and the smoking area on prom deck had places to sit, in previous years this has been the same on azura, ventura, oriana and aurora. On britannia it does not have a prom deck but there is an outside area where prom deck should be and there was seats out there for ssmoking, and on the upper decks.

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super furby,thank you for that, ordinarily it wouldnt be a problem but with my knees not likely to be fixed any time soon i needed to check. theres no point in getting a sccooter/chair for what hopefully will be a temporary issue allbeit prob 18 months.

thankyou everyone for your help

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hi all, heard back from cunard all they say is there is seating in at least one of the smoking areas. litterally that was it. it answers the problem but the terse tone seems to say what they hold smokers to be. an inconveniance at best. or am i being paranoid.

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Used an ecig on our Ventura cruise last year. One evening we were sat up at the breakers bar, above the pool area. This is one of the areas where it is ok to use them, well on one side of the ship it is. There was only a table available on the non smoking side, which was actually quite central, literally 2 foot from the smoking side. One of the waiters came up to me and said I couldn't use the ecig there, so I moved the chair 2 foot back and it was ok. Seems a little crazy but I suppose rules are rules. I occasionally used the ecig in the cabin and on the balcony and didn't get captured :ph34r:

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37 minutes ago, mitch said:

hi all, heard back from cunard all they say is there is seating in at least one of the smoking areas. litterally that was it. it answers the problem but the terse tone seems to say what they hold smokers to be. an inconveniance at best. or am i being paranoid.

Nobody seems to like smokers these days and it's hard to believe that not so long ago people were free to smoke in pubs and even restaurants. I find the thought of somebody smoking where I'm eating quite disgusting now. I wouldn't worry as there have always been plenty of smokers on the ships I have sailed on. It's a bit stinky when only using an ecig but needs must 

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2 minutes ago, mitch said:

thanks tom,ventura is one of the ones i asked p&o about,so youve solved that one. they havent come back to me at all yet.

Lots of seats in the smoking area there and even sunbeds during the day. If you can't find a spare seat just grab one from somewhere else and move it into the smoking area. 

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Cunard still have a dedicated smokers lounge onboard as you made reference to wanting to sit indoors this may be of benefit to you providing you dont mind either a pipe or cigar called Churchills

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hi cruise chef, oh no i am not fussed about being indoors,in fact i am quite happy with the indoor smoking ban. i was worried that from the description in the brochures of the smoking areas, mostly prom deck fwd or aft i had visions of it basically just being almost a bit of corridor and had to stand. standing is my problem at the moment in fact went base over apex in the chemist this morning, very embarassing. the knee just locked mid step. mind its a while since i had a good cigar. those places are usually quite comfy bit gentlemans clubbish might be the place to do the daily emails lol.

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sorted, arcadia on the 7th oct carribean and back from/to southampton, lots of sea days so i will see how it goes and maybe go for the roundtrip transatlantic qm2 next year or 2019. thankyou all for your help. off to pack lol.

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I am so glad you have your cruise booked Arcada is a nice ship, I remember last year outside the lido they had nice sitting area you could smoke in, so handy for a coffee, or a drink.

have a fabulous time.

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