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sammy sun

Can you travel aboard a British Isles cruise without a passport?

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I vaguely remember this question being raised before on this forum but I cannot find the answer.

A friend of mine asked me this question earlier today and for the life of me, I wasn't sure. I know I've seen cruises in the past that have advertised that you don't need a passport to travel and when I googled it, Fred Olsen "No Passport" cruises came up, but does that apply to all cruise lines when sailing the British Isles or just Fred Olsen?

From my experience, you would always be required to show a valid passport when boarding a cruise but I thought I'd throw the question out there to my fellow forum members to shed some light on for me.

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no idea, but logic would say that if your not going outside terratorial waters you wouldnt.

but i do seem to remember even the ferry from stranraer to larne you had to have at least photo id.

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4 minutes ago, Sea Cruiser said:

Oh id always thought you'd need a passport

That was my thoughts too Sea Cruiser. I always thought you needed a passport unless it was specified otherwise, such as with Fred Olsen's cruises that they purposefully advertised. It seems to be a tricky thing to get a definitive answer for though and varies with each cruise line you look at.

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We went about 3 years ago and had to show our passport on embarkation as normal. I know we were going to Southern Ireland. But I still think the answer is yes you do need a passport. 

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Just now, Countrygirl said:

We went about 3 years ago and had to show our passport on embarkation as normal. I know we were going to Southern Ireland. But I still think the answer is yes you do need a passport. 

What cruise line was that with Countrygirl?

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I guess only the cruiseline would be able to answer this but I would think it is the cruiseline who enforce the rule more from a security point of view, I can't see any valid reason why a British national would be required to do so when they are not entering another country (southern Ireland being the exception)  

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8 hours ago, cruise addict said:

No, you still need yo use your passport. Even when you take a domestic flight you have to have photographic ID.

I realise this and I can see the point of photographic ID there has to be some sort of control, I also wouldn't have a problem having to produce my passport for a domestic flight or an around Britain cruise my comment was just based on my own perception that I couldn't see a valid reason why a British national would need a passport to travel in their own country but saying that I'm 100% behind making our ports/airports safer. 

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29 minutes ago, *Dancing Queen* said:

I realise this and I can see the point of photographic ID there has to be some sort of control, I also wouldn't have a problem having to produce my passport for a domestic flight or an around Britain cruise my comment was just based on my own perception that I couldn't see a valid reason why a British national would need a passport to travel in their own country but saying that I'm 100% behind making our ports/airports safer. 

I would think that as cruise ship's tend to trade in international  waters they have a standard requirement for passengers to have a passport as ID ,There may be no need for a passport for UK residents sailing round the UK, but as there passengers are from around the world they need a trusted ID...Davybe

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I suppose it all depends if the cruise you do only calls at British Isles ports and then it is dependant on the cruise line. Princess do regular British Isles cruises throughout the summer which I can highly recommend and they call at Southern Ireland and France so you would need your passport.

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I think the answer would be , Yes you do as you are often more than 12 miles from shore and therefore in international waters. Certainly on my round UK trip on Black Watch in June I had to supply my passport details and take it with me. However, just my opinion

 

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if you are going to international waters, yes you need a passport, and as OWT says, even though you are not visiting other countries, you only need to go 12 miles out to be in international waters

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Thanks for this information everyone, much appreciated. At least now I have some more info to go back with. I've looked at numerous sites and still been unable to establish a certain answer so I'm glad I asked the question on here. 

OWT - Do you know how Fred Olsen were able to do it when they offered their "no passport no problem" sailings? Surely they must have ventured over 12 miles from shore during those itineraries.

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Just now, *Dancing Queen* said:

It's very confusing because Fred O are still advertising 'no passport cruises' 

http://www.fredolsencruises.com/find-your-holiday/no-passport-cruises

These all appear to be around Scotland so I wonder if that makes a difference and they perhaps don't go more than 12 miles out to sea ??

 

Maybe that is the case DQ, perhaps they're not crossing into international waters and hugging the British coastline throughout.

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3 hours ago, sammy sun said:

Maybe that is the case DQ, perhaps they're not crossing into international waters and hugging the British coastline throughout.

Dont know if its relevant but Princess cruise to Greenock  and then Invergordon and Kirkwall and for at least a couple of days the casino is shut completely and perhaps it is because they are not in international waters.

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Fred Olsen state on their information sent for around Britain Cruises

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"Important Photo ID Requirement for Around UK Cruises

To ensure the safety and comfort of all guests we must insist on being able to verify each guest's identity at time of check in, you must therefore bring with you one of the following recognised forms of PHOTOGRAPHIC ID. Boarding will otherwise be denied and no refund can be offered.

Passport (Can have expired within the last 2 years/EU National Identity Card/Driving Licence/Council issue travel card/Firearms licence, Citizen Card or Validate UK Card

Should you not hold any of the above we will accept a Validate UK Card which you can apply for online at www validateuk.co.uk     "

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1 hour ago, sinbad10 said:

Dont know if its relevant but Princess cruise to Greenock  and then Invergordon and Kirkwall and for at least a couple of days the casino is shut completely and perhaps it is because they are not in international waters.

It is definitely because the ship was not in international waters.

Edited by HthrEdmndsn

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Yes you do need a passport. On Caribbean Princess Round Britain all passports were surrendered on board prior to the call at Cobh. Apparently then the authorities look at random passports regardless of whether they are EU or not. The rules appear to change every year as the previous year on the same itinerary and ship,  we did not have to surrender them, merely use them at check in.

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At the end of August we did a 'Round the UK' cruise with Fred Olsen.

Without checking I assumed we didn't need passports as we were always in UK waters. WRONG!

First question at embarkation check in was - Can I have your cruise ticket and passport please? PANIC!

Luckily I had taken our driving licences which were an acceptable alternative - (Government issued but I don't think other ID is accepted?)

However it took the lady on the desk twice as long to book us in as all the details had to be entered manually into the booking system -

SO....... in future ALWAYS take passports with you!! If we hadn't had our driving licences we would have been stuck as our transport driver had just dropped us off and gone home!!

I won't 'assume' in future!

 

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