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Isn’t it time all-inclusive holidays were offered by every cruise line?

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Obviously there are some lines that already offer it, but these tend to be on 'promotion' and you have to time it right.

I saw recently that all-inclusive package holidays are up 63%, isn’t it time the cruising world acknowledged the demand for an all-in holiday with nothing to think about once on board?

I’m not just talking food and drink being included, I’m talking EVERYTHING!!!

I’m talking gratuities, excursions, speciality dining, room service, anything you can think of????

I know Regent cruise lines do this, but to me this is reserved for the super rich! wouldn’t it be nice to see some of the mainstream cruise companies like P&O, Cunard, Royal Caribbean offering this type of trip.

 

I’m sure there would be more than a decent uptake? who's with me?

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I think the price would have to rise by a large amount as at the moment they make up for lower prices by making money on drinks, excursions, speciality restaurants etc. We don't drink much alcohol or use the speciality restaurants and we might do 1 or 2 excursions per cruise but otherwise use Ho-Ho buses & do our own thing.  I would perhaps like to see gratuities included but not the rest. We did have a very limited drinks package on Fred Olsen but even so we were drinking more then usual just to break even. It might make sense for a lot of people but not for us.

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I think I am with you 2torts, the main reason that cruise lines have introduced all these extra options is to try and maximise profits without having to increase the base price of the cruise.  I would certainly not be prepared to pay a significant increase for all inclusive, because like you we don't drink a great deal,  we prefer the MDR where we are able to enjoy the company of others over dinner, and I am not prepared to subsidise those passengers that do enjoy all the extras.

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I prefer MSC's approach where you can upgrade to various 'all inclusive' packages, but you can also stay on the basic cruise price if you so wish, that way, if you do not drink a lot then this offers you the best of both worlds as you just pay for what you consume.

Personally, as a moderate drinker, I like the AI packages and I am not chasing the drinks to maximise my free spend, it's just nice to have paid for it beforehand, this also means you don't have to pay the 15% service charge and as we all know, it's not difficult to run up quite a bill on board, even with moderate consumption of alcohol and plenty of nice coffees etc.

The lack of any AI packages on P&O has put me off booking 2 cruises with them this year and maybe they should be considering offering them as 'upgrades' but still offering the basic cruise as well.

 

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I certainly wouldnt want alcohol and excursions included in the cruise price. Dont do ship excursions and not a massive alcohol drinker and as nothing is for free I fear that prices would increase to cover these items and make it very restrictive for me due to increase in price.

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1 hour ago, sinbad10 said:

I certainly wouldnt want alcohol and excursions included in the cruise price. Dont do ship excursions and not a massive alcohol drinker and as nothing is for free I fear that prices would increase to cover these items and make it very restrictive for me due to increase in price.

You are definitely right about that, since Celebrity started offering a drinks package, sometimes but not always for free, their drink prices have shot up, and now their cruise prices have started to increase way above inflation or Sterling's devaluation.  So be careful what you wish for if you want AI on P&O.

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I can partly see harley's point though. I think it is time the cruise lines woke up to the world of all-inclusive. Every single tv advert you see from the likes of First Choice, Thomson, Thomas Cook, they're all talking about all-inclusive packages so it's clearly a thriving market now. Perhaps it is time that more cruise lines took this feedback from the overall industry and applied to their niche sector.

Cartoonman makes a good point though. I understand that some people would want it and some people wouldn't so rather than a blanket approach, offer it in different levels. That way you get only what you pay for, simple. Doing this would appease everyone by offering what we each, individually, are looking for from a cruise holiday. 

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I think CARTOONMAN has really valid points, sometimes people will want to go basic for a cheap holiday to enjoy the sun and may not want trips, all inclusive is only good if you enjoy a drink or speciality coffees etc and may not be worth it for those that dont. The option of adding these on would be good.

I am also in agreement that tips being included is the way forward and it would remove some of the arguments and sometimes injustices if the staff received a reward for their service

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The down-side of All Inclusive is that it discourages people to get out of their all-inclusive environment to enjoy local facilities, bars & restaurants.  I have only been on one all-inclusive cruise but would not rush back.

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I should like to see All Inclusive packages.   Then one would know what the total cruise is going to cost instead of adding the bits up in your head or on a piece of paper before you think of booking.

Has anyone booked with Saga and does their inclusive chauffeur and insurance make sense.   I am 82 nearly 83 and wondered if this would be a good option.

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Definitely not all inclusive for me.  We are very moderate drinkers, prefer independent sight seeing and rarely use extra pay restaurants.  It is easy to calculate the cost of gratuities, and on our recent cruise we prepaid them, so had no surprises on that score.  I don’t want to feel that I am subsidizing others when I pay for my cruises.

Sheila

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On ‎25‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 4:46 PM, harley1 said:

Obviously there are some lines that already offer it, but these tend to be on 'promotion' and you have to time it right.

I saw recently that all-inclusive package holidays are up 63%, isn’t it time the cruising world acknowledged the demand for an all-in holiday with nothing to think about once on board?

I’m not just talking food and drink being included, I’m talking EVERYTHING!!!

I’m talking gratuities, excursions, speciality dining, room service, anything you can think of????

I know Regent cruise lines do this, but to me this is reserved for the super rich! wouldn’t it be nice to see some of the mainstream cruise companies like P&O, Cunard, Royal Caribbean offering this type of trip.

 

I’m sure there would be more than a decent uptake? who's with me?

 

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1 hour ago, smtcan said:

I don’t want to feel that I am subsidizing others when I pay for my cruises.

 

Don't quite see how you would be subsiding others if it were all inclusive?

HLM.

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Just now, HLM said:

Don't quite see how you would be subsiding others if it were all inclusive?

HLM.

Of course it would. P&O would increase price of cruise to cover drinks package and no doubt price it at a higher rate of serious drinkers so therefore people like me who do not drink a lot of alcohol would be paying the same higher price for the cruise than those that start drinking at lunch and continue for the rest of the day and into the night so therefore I would be subsidising people who drink more than me.

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3 minutes ago, sinbad10 said:

Of course it would. P&O would increase price of cruise to cover drinks package and no doubt price it at a higher rate of serious drinkers so therefore people like me who do not drink a lot of alcohol would be paying the same higher price for the cruise than those that start drinking at lunch and continue for the rest of the day and into the night so therefore I would be subsidising people who drink more than me.

But AI is not just about alcohol, the opening post suggests everything is included therefore if you were to do more excursions than me would that mean am I subsidising you?

It's swings and roundabouts surely.

HLM.

 

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no because I do not do excursions that is why I would never cruise with any cruise line which offers them included in the cruise price. By the way there are very few cruise lines who offer a totally all inclusive price including drinks and excursions where there are many which offer drinks packages i.e. Celebrity that is why I would never cruise with them because as a low consumer of alcohol makes the cruise price not competitive or value for money for me.

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17 minutes ago, sinbad10 said:

no because I do not do excursions that is why I would never cruise with any cruise line which offers them included in the cruise price. By the way there are very few cruise lines who offer a totally all inclusive price including drinks and excursions where there are many which offer drinks packages i.e. Celebrity that is why I would never cruise with them because as a low consumer of alcohol makes the cruise price not competitive or value for money for me.

As far as I'm concerned no one would subsidise anyone else, we all use different services onboard some more than others.

Some drink more, some eat more, some pay more for their cruises because of fluid pricing, as I say swings and roundabouts.

HLM.

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15 hours ago, HLM said:

As far as I'm concerned no one would subsidise anyone else, we all use different services onboard some more than others.

Some drink more, some eat more, some pay more for their cruises because of fluid pricing, as I say swings and roundabouts.

HLM.

Drinks and excursions would be the main cost items in your example and we would definitely not use excursions and  spend little on drinks.  Therefore if we paid the higher cruise price we would be subsidizing those who use these.

We visited a ski resort for many years and took our sons, paying for their accommodation and ski passes.  When our boys were over eighteen and classed as adults, the resort introduced ‘ Kids stay and ski free'.  The price went up considerably (almost doubled) so we found another resort where we were not paying extra to subsidize other people's children.  

Obviously there are are people who are unable to budget for extras on their holidays, so prefer an all inclusive price, but it makes no sense to charge everyone for services they may not want to use.  

Incidentally Sinbad, we have always been able to find a basic price on Celebrity without the additional cost of a drink package, so it remains our line of choice.

Sheila

 

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Auto correct changed Sinbad to Sinead

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15 hours ago, HLM said:

As far as I'm concerned no one would subsidise anyone else, we all use different services onboard some more than others.

Some drink more, some eat more, some pay more for their cruises because of fluid pricing, as I say swings and roundabouts.

HLM.

Which Utopian planet are you from?  To provide anything as included that  currently  has a charge will result in any cruise line having to apply an across the board increase, if however you are suggesting that passengers could cherry pick from a list and pay an extra cost just for the items they want, that I would be prepared to accept.  In fact I do believe that the RCI group are currently trialling something similar where they offer a premium price which includes some extras.  However to encourage passengers to buy a drinks package many lines have increased their bar tariffs quite considerably, and if they start to offer other inclusive extras you can bet the same would happen with them, resulting in higher cruise costs for everyone.

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22 hours ago, shirvic said:

I should like to see All Inclusive packages.   Then one would know what the total cruise is going to cost instead of adding the bits up in your head or on a piece of paper before you think of booking.

Has anyone booked with Saga and does their inclusive chauffeur and insurance make sense.   I am 82 nearly 83 and wondered if this would be a good option.

A friend of ours always cruises with saga and loves the fact that he has the chauffeur and insurance included but as a couple we have priced a similar cruise with P&O and found Saga to be very expensive for a couple. Sage prices are better for singles. 

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currently on ventura sitting by the pool,  finish on friday so far i have paid for 6 drinks the others the casino gave me so no way would any form of drinks package work. nor would trips i have only done 2. like most people i think they should include tips.

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6 hours ago, towny44 said:

Which Utopian planet are you from?  To provide anything as included that  currently  has a charge will result in any cruise line having to apply an across the board increase, if however you are suggesting that passengers could cherry pick from a list and pay an extra cost just for the items they want, that I would be prepared to accept.  In fact I do believe that the RCI group are currently trialling something similar where they offer a premium price which includes some extras.  However to encourage passengers to buy a drinks package many lines have increased their bar tariffs quite considerably, and if they start to offer other inclusive extras you can bet the same would happen with them, resulting in higher cruise costs for everyone.

Not getting into a back and forth scenario again Towny, like I said previously at the end of the day we all pay different prices,   some drink more, some drink less and so on.

No one subsidies me apart from myself, simple as that.

HLM.

 

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